Post by Kyrin Wyldstar on Jul 7, 2020 22:12:39 GMT
A question was raised to me. What value does rank have in the Force Communities?
My answer is that only people that have not suffered for the honor to earn a rank would find them meaningless. If an order is giving out ranks like candy at a parade they are empty. These sorts of ranks reduce to nothing more than "participation badges", for a popularity contest. This is not something worthy of the excellence of a Sith. A Sith is willing to do the work for the proper title. They will want to know that they have killed what they own. No incentive is required other than the desire that comes from passion.
But even in the best of orders there will always be some who will say promotion happens out of favoritism. And this is somewhat true. When a Sith chooses to exist as part of a collective then participation in that collective affords them certain privilege. This benefit is based on peer review and favoritism should be an aspect of that by design. But it should also carry some sort of objective standard by which others coming in or visiting or otherwise existing outside the confines of the order should be able to recognize why that dispensation was granted them.
In the end all we can do as order leaders is make it as fair as possible. This falls hand in hand with the idea that as Sith we are individuals. And so on that basis the attainment of rank is a matter of life experience and character but also in the form of a body of written work which can be read and peer reviewed. There should be a minimum standard for this in order to progress. And when that is the basis for the "rank" it does not have to be self-proclaimed or pinned on like a tin badge. It will simply be recognized by others.
In taking on this work no outside incentive like a merit badge is required for the True Sith. They either have the passion for it or they do not. Sith are initiators and self-starters and their passion is what drives them. This comes from within the Sith, not externally in the form of enticement. This quality is the very core trait that sets Sith apart from others and it’s the reason they gain the ranks they do. There is no complaining that its too hard or there was no incentive. The passion for the work is its own incentive. In learning this lesson well, freedom is the end result.
I’m incredibly academically oriented and so i find purpose and drive in that. I prefer studying philosophic greats and gleaning the best aspects of sith worldview from them. Others may find passion in other things. So the details are left up to the individual to decide. The work is what’s important in this regard. Now all that has to be done is to define what that work shall be and set those standards that are truly worthy of the name SITH!
It all comes down to the fact that any title worth anything must be earned in sacrifice and suffering. Want to be a doctor, a United States Marine, an Olympiad... anything worthy of respect? It must be earned by the achievement of a minimum set of standards as defined by an organization of others that came before you. And for a Sith that standard must be extremely high! This is the heart of passion.
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Keep in mind these are just the starting point requirements for training as a sith. It is not a path to be stepped upon lightly and it is even harder to travel. But if you have the mind of a Sith you will persevere in the final trial before becoming a Lord of the Sith. That final trial is to add something to the Sith lineage that has never been done before. The doctorate level if you will. Take this information for what you will. Do you think you have what it takes to be a Sith? If so I look forward to watching your ideas and thoughts develop!
I would wish you good luck but luck has nothing to do with the Sith Worldview. So instead I shall simply say, I challenge you to impress me.
My answer is that only people that have not suffered for the honor to earn a rank would find them meaningless. If an order is giving out ranks like candy at a parade they are empty. These sorts of ranks reduce to nothing more than "participation badges", for a popularity contest. This is not something worthy of the excellence of a Sith. A Sith is willing to do the work for the proper title. They will want to know that they have killed what they own. No incentive is required other than the desire that comes from passion.
But even in the best of orders there will always be some who will say promotion happens out of favoritism. And this is somewhat true. When a Sith chooses to exist as part of a collective then participation in that collective affords them certain privilege. This benefit is based on peer review and favoritism should be an aspect of that by design. But it should also carry some sort of objective standard by which others coming in or visiting or otherwise existing outside the confines of the order should be able to recognize why that dispensation was granted them.
In the end all we can do as order leaders is make it as fair as possible. This falls hand in hand with the idea that as Sith we are individuals. And so on that basis the attainment of rank is a matter of life experience and character but also in the form of a body of written work which can be read and peer reviewed. There should be a minimum standard for this in order to progress. And when that is the basis for the "rank" it does not have to be self-proclaimed or pinned on like a tin badge. It will simply be recognized by others.
In taking on this work no outside incentive like a merit badge is required for the True Sith. They either have the passion for it or they do not. Sith are initiators and self-starters and their passion is what drives them. This comes from within the Sith, not externally in the form of enticement. This quality is the very core trait that sets Sith apart from others and it’s the reason they gain the ranks they do. There is no complaining that its too hard or there was no incentive. The passion for the work is its own incentive. In learning this lesson well, freedom is the end result.
I’m incredibly academically oriented and so i find purpose and drive in that. I prefer studying philosophic greats and gleaning the best aspects of sith worldview from them. Others may find passion in other things. So the details are left up to the individual to decide. The work is what’s important in this regard. Now all that has to be done is to define what that work shall be and set those standards that are truly worthy of the name SITH!
It all comes down to the fact that any title worth anything must be earned in sacrifice and suffering. Want to be a doctor, a United States Marine, an Olympiad... anything worthy of respect? It must be earned by the achievement of a minimum set of standards as defined by an organization of others that came before you. And for a Sith that standard must be extremely high! This is the heart of passion.
As you explore this place and these ideas, keep in mind that the Guild of Wyldstar is an open guild that anyone can join and participate in. It is designed for those just coming to and exploring this path. Prove yourself in this battle ground and you may earn the privilege of being asked to join the Black Imperium. The Guild of the Black Imperium is an invite only guild designed for peer interactions of Sith Lords. Initiation at the Black Imperium follows a regimented peer guided journey of discovery into the world of the Sith. The initiation for this guild I link here for casual review.
Keep in mind these are just the starting point requirements for training as a sith. It is not a path to be stepped upon lightly and it is even harder to travel. But if you have the mind of a Sith you will persevere in the final trial before becoming a Lord of the Sith. That final trial is to add something to the Sith lineage that has never been done before. The doctorate level if you will. Take this information for what you will. Do you think you have what it takes to be a Sith? If so I look forward to watching your ideas and thoughts develop!
I would wish you good luck but luck has nothing to do with the Sith Worldview. So instead I shall simply say, I challenge you to impress me.