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Post by Forceuser on Jul 1, 2023 16:19:49 GMT
I'm no expert but I was thinking all through history
IIf you read most of the books, whether it's the bible, mythology creation of the universe or whatever.
IIt seems like they have. Some type of common denominator let's call it a separation of unity. It's always contradicting believes whether it's good versus bad. Right versus left
The god versus the devil or whatever.
Has anyone noticed it's always to pick aside
It's like it's always been to divide and conquer to divide and conquer over and over and over again
For example, in the Bible, it talks about the. Tower god said look the manner of one mind, surely nothing shall be held from them.
Let's go down together and
to Paraphrase let's divide and conquer.
It seems like there is something more powerful inside of us that all these entities are afraid of.
Anyone else have a thought?
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Post by VixensVengeance on Jul 4, 2023 2:21:23 GMT
The most powerful force is yourself. This is because you can see the sides and yet you still do not have to choose between them.
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Post by Forceuser on Nov 4, 2023 17:22:24 GMT
O k I was just thinking I know this is way way out there
Is it possible the greatest power of the force is the delusion that we are somehow separate from the force?
For example, if the force wanted to be known and feel like a leader, you would have to create people that needed to be led.
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Post by VixensVengeance on Nov 6, 2023 23:30:26 GMT
That implies that the force is sentient and that it created people without free will.
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Post by Forceuser on Nov 7, 2023 19:03:34 GMT
Yes it seems like that to me.
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Post by VixensVengeance on Nov 7, 2023 23:02:42 GMT
Well I have free will, not absolute by any means, but still I can choose my path. does this mean your analogy is wrong or does it mean I am not a product of the Force?
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Post by Forceuser on Nov 8, 2023 16:50:05 GMT
Okay, I may be way off. Just wanted to throw this out. For example, a profit or a witch or a sear. Whatever it doesn't matter, let's say they see a vision of someone. Let's say Susan on her 22nd birthday.
Graduates from beauty school and the next weekend gets killed in a car accident and let's say all this Exactly like the person said. I'm thinking at least 2 possibilities unthe. Person tapped into the force and was given knowledge of what exactly was going to happen. What color clothes they had? What food they're we're going eat for the day everything.
It could be a lucky guess maybe.
Or maybe the force pushed that vision on the person because the force already knew exactly what is going to happen in the future.
We can go and say well. The person maybe wanted to be a basketball star, but they decided to be. Beautiful and go to beauty school it was their free will.
Or they happened to decide what food they were going to eat for the day. That's true, but how is it possible? The force always knows everything everybody it's going to do in the future. Is it possible it was already planned out in advance??
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Post by VixensVengeance on Nov 9, 2023 22:35:59 GMT
Anything is "possible". However not everything is plausible. How possible is it that there is a force out there that is either writing the future ahead of time or tapping into something that is writing the future and relaying that information to select mortal beings? Not very likely I would say.
You assume this ability is real and yet I have never seen any evidence to believe the claims that anyone knows the future. Remember our experiment with the objects on the desk? If you can show me any sort of consistent, reproducible evidence that such a thing is possible under scientific rigorous circumstances then I would have to change my opinion. however such proof has never been collected.
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Post by Forceuser on Nov 10, 2023 22:31:56 GMT
I understand your thoughts. It could be right.
And yes my quesses we wrong.
I need to complete some things first.
But maybe we can get together and see if we can try and manifest something...
If not I have a friend that practices and moves small objects every day.
He lives in Georgia.
What he does I think would be a little more consistent... for me I'm still working on fear .I could get you in touch with a doctor that can verify my soccer ball story of it flying
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Post by VixensVengeance on Nov 12, 2023 23:04:40 GMT
I don't need an eye witness to verify anything. I need you to demonstrate the ability; accurately and consistently reproduce the phenomenon. And only then can we begin to explore the cause. You see, even if you can do it, that does not mean you get to jump to the conclusion it is magic.
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Post by Forceuser on Nov 13, 2023 17:08:18 GMT
I understand and agree...
I've always been afraid and had a challenge with that. Probably because of my extensive fear and my religious upbringing from when I was a kid.
You know the typical you're evil. That's only from the devil you're going to hell is etc etc, etc.
Let me see about working on that. I don't know how to describe it. But I have to be in the rightsaid it's like somehow. I go into a super deep
Thinking It's like I've gone somewhere.
So deep it's like a different place. And I mean like a super dark room. I can explain more another time.
I've tried to do a little research myself. I know I had a very traumaddict childhood. Let's say.
Then then add-on. Paranormal experiences.
And I do know I've had near death experience when I was a kid. Maybe that contributed also
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Post by Forceuser on Nov 13, 2023 17:14:22 GMT
Declare a little bit. I had 2 small near death experiences before the age of.
7 and in nose. I have to add out of body experience at that time. The second experience when I was around 6 or 7 on the out of a body experience I actually. Did something small To prove to somebody when I came back that I really did have an out of body experience because I knew nobody would believe me. I'm thinking that may have been one of the catalysts that started certain things in my life. I don't know..
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Post by Forceuser on Nov 16, 2023 13:36:24 GMT
Okay I have an iyeah let me know what you this is fairly safe.
I was thinking, how about you? Have a object that you're very, very familiar with and that you know you will, you would not move. For example, a ball or a book or whatesend me a private message with a picture of it on your desk.
And let's try an experiment in the next weeker 2 and see if I can make it disappear.
What do you think?
Of course, it might not work and.
I'm, I may overthink things.
But I guess that's the first step in overcoming your fears
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Post by VixensVengeance on Nov 18, 2023 23:58:38 GMT
very well, let me pick out an object and I will post a picture of it. I can do it openly so there is no deception.
One caveat however, if you make it dissappear can you bring it back?
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Post by Forceuser on Nov 19, 2023 3:02:56 GMT
That sounds good fair enough. It can come back.
Over the years I have had many things.
Go and come back.
Normally like I said, I have to be in some super deep state of thought and normally I have some type of emotional attachment to it. Whether it's a need or something.
But either way, this is helping me overcome one of my greatest fears.
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