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Post by Kyrin Wyldstar on Sept 10, 2020 18:13:23 GMT
I recently came across this interesting video about a man who hears voices from other realms.
I found it interesting and thought I would post it here for discussion.
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Post by Forceuser on Sept 11, 2020 21:57:25 GMT
The video was very interesting but from my perspective only I think something is wrong with the guy I've had experience with voices talking to me 1 from my physical ears to was in my mind and 3 with something like in Star Wars where a force ghost would talk to Luke Skywalker for example
That gentleman said sometimes they were wrong sometimes they were right where at least from my experience whatever was said was immediately 100% right without question my whole life
But of course everyone's perspective is from something different I think some people actually have real experiences example a voice comes to you and says your father just died and he live 2000 miles away can you get a phone call an hour later saying your dad died an hour ago that I believe is more than coincidence I think that is more closely related to what I'm talking about or some type of force that's connected with everything reveal something to you
For example when I was a late teenager one morning I got up and I heard this voice inside of me not in my head but kind of like in my body like a echo chamber said you're going to receive a Bible today
To keep the story short I said to myself I am going to disprove this voices and nonsense once and for all I said I'm going to do everything humanly possible to never receive a Bible today
I just happened to be at a Bible study that night the pastor abruptly stops in the middle and says I cannot continue the service because the Holy Ghost told me I will not continue until this person and you know who you are received this Bible this continued on for 5 to 10 minutes and I thought there's no way in hell I'm going to receive this a raise my hand
The person next to me with a stare at the pastor not even blinking raised his hand and I thought good I knew it wasn't going to be me after the service was over and was going home this person said stop I said yes and they said the Holy Spirit told me you were the one that had to receive this tonight and I was forced to give it to you.
Of course this is just one simple example but after a lifetime of these hundreds and hundreds of examples and all being a hundred percent right I'm slowly starting to realize but maybe there's something else going on in the world that we don't know about that we were not taught in science class. Of course that's just one person's two cents
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Post by Kyrin Wyldstar on Sept 12, 2020 2:24:43 GMT
So do you base your evaluation of this person as "having something wrong with them" on the fact that sometimes the voices are wrong to him? What if they have always been right but he is not seeing it or denying it? How can you tell the difference? It seems these sorts of subjective personal experiences can not be used in anyway to verify the validity of some external entity whispering in your ear. At least to me there needs to be more than that.
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Post by Forceuser on Sept 12, 2020 3:34:22 GMT
Blessed be and Very good question . I was driving on The freeway when I wrote that and watched the video quickly. I have 2 thoughts my 1st thought. When you're dealing with the force a matter how it interacts with us it is total consciousness It's tapped in to everyone's emotions and feelings and activities all the same time so there is no way in the world he could ever remotely be off. It has created what I like to call this holodeck that we live in for our experience. Because I believe everything is made of some type of energy or thought energy or something and it can be changed even the Molecular structure. That's why even some type of quantum physics and things like that have a good explanation of sometimes some molecules being in 2 different places at the same time. one could actually be in your thoughts and 1 could actually be physically in front of you. I'm doing this route quick so hopefully I don't kill off topic too far
2nd thought I believe the force does things just to experience it for example the balance and everything hot cold no pressure a lot of pressure wet try something like that
It could be the force does this to a certain amount of people to create doubt or fear or other things in people just to get a Different reaction So it can experience something new.
Something like in The Bible talks about God allowing a lying spirit to come down and mislead all the prophets so it could do its will that it wanted to do. And at the time it was to kill a king.
So I beg the question who in their right mind would do something like that if they were truly that powerful.
Even a so called demi God could use the force enough to change the whole story.
So why why why that's very good question
So either I believe he has been purposely toyed with by the force or
He is a highly sensitive person who is relying on his Intuitiveness from experience of his past
I think it's the latter but it could be something else.
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Post by Kyrin Wyldstar on Sept 12, 2020 20:36:34 GMT
It seems that you are searching for external meaning in your life. However your justification is full of contradiction. Is the force self aware or not? Does it exist in all things or not? Does it exist outside time or not? You describe it as having goals so its self aware but then you describe it according to laws of physics so its not self aware. If it exists in all things it knows all things and yet you describe it as effecting events in such a way as to experience something new, making it not aware of all things. You describe it as capable of showing us the future without fallacy and yet go on to say it strives to see new things in linear fashion, so is it inside time or outside?
Why do you feel the need to define your own self worth in terms of an exter al standard instead of finding that worth a d purpose inside yourself?
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Post by Forceuser on Sept 12, 2020 20:51:55 GMT
Blessed be to you My understanding keeps evolving. When I was younger I thought we were in a specific time and there was God and good and evil at war with each other. A little complicated but fairly simple to understand
Then later because of my experiences through my life It seemed like that particular God or religions were created just to have let's call it a cause-and-effect on the world as we know it.
Then later my thoughts expanded to the forces outside of any type of time
And when let's call it time immaterial is manifested it is only manifested so the force can enjoy the experience
The only way I can explain it online is for example you're watching Western television shows. So you have to create dirt horses people things like that so you can enjoy the movie of the Western time..
Then later you get bored and you would like to experience the midevil times of the Knights . so same thing you have to create people castles dragons or whatever so you can experience that and feel what it feels like to be there the Passion the love
And later you create futuristic stuff for example of space travelers people With light sabers And force abilities. S4 is everyone in the movie is concerned it is real if you ask him they would know no difference they bleed they die
It's like the old television sets all you had to do was turn the dial in a different Position and the program came on but as far as we know they're actually happening all at the same time.
And everyone that's living in the television set in there particular movie honestly believes they are truly there. And it's impossible for there to be for example if your on the Western said it's impossible for anyone there to believe there's such thing is futuristic airplanes.
So at the moment my impression is the force is creating these things just for the actual experience of it to feel the love the pain the flustration the anger the excitement the adventure all of these things.
Its just what I believe at the moment but maybe in another 4 or 5 years I will believe something different it seems I have changed every 5 or 10 years
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Post by Forceuser on Sept 12, 2020 20:55:30 GMT
I am searching for outside Meaning because what I thought was important in life has no meaning.
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Post by Forceuser on Sept 12, 2020 20:58:24 GMT
Not to confuse our derail the topic but it's like if you see a ghost that's dressed in clothes from Maybe 200 years ago it's just like somehow the emotions or frequency got messed up maybe when they died are panicked or whatever and they get stuck between the 2 television show frequencies. But most of the time if you can acknowlege the ghost and make them feel their life was important or you just understand what happened to them then their emotions calm down enough in their frequency changes so they can either go back to where they belong are they start all over in a new TV show so to speak
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Post by Kyrin Wyldstar on Sept 13, 2020 17:47:00 GMT
So according to your analogy we were all created by the force for its entertainment or need to experience or maybe learn. That is our purpose. So what is the purpose of the force itself. Why does it exist? Where does it get its purpose from?
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Post by Forceuser on Sept 13, 2020 17:58:55 GMT
Blessed be to you and that is an excellent question. for myself I am on a quest for self discovery and purpose and meaning and also to understand the big question why?
I haven't got that far ahead on my questioning Of the force you are way ahead of me. But maybe with all of us working together one day We will be able to discover the answer to these questions of life.
I'm a little afraid to even ask the question but if I gathered the nerves to I will try to seek an answer.
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Post by Kyrin Wyldstar on Sept 13, 2020 18:32:33 GMT
Don't be afraid my friend. Embrace the unknown and walk boldly into that darkness, let your eyes adjust and then look around. What do you see?
It is a proceess, one I encourage you to undertake.
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Post by Forceuser on Sept 13, 2020 18:45:52 GMT
Blessed be to you. I'm a little tied up at the moment for a while but when I have a chance to ground myself and free my nerves I will seek the answer
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Post by Forceuser on Sept 13, 2020 18:55:52 GMT
Blessed Be . and I think it's almost a funny answer before I even asked I felt inside we all already know the answer.
The purpose of the force is . "oneness" another words it's Purpose is to bring everything into one like glue so we all belong and we all feel as one .and in perfect love and truth. It's like the magnet we all deep down inside we all are yearning to come back to . To know and to remember where we started from.
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Post by Kyrin Wyldstar on Sept 14, 2020 16:24:40 GMT
Is there such a thing as perfect love and truth? Is perfection ever achievable? We are obviously all not one so that seems a nonsense statement.
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Post by Forceuser on Sept 14, 2020 17:18:01 GMT
Blessed be To you.
This is only my perspective of what I was shown and given feelings for.and this is going to be very hard to explain. on a typed message without actually feeling and seen it. but here it goes bear with me please.
Is there Perfect love? yes . truth? truth will be more You have almost have to separate that for each situation I will try to explain. Same thing with perfection Except with perfection I think you can only have it when it applies to love.
Let's start with your life and my life we can look back and remember all of the experiences we've had the goals the ups and Downs the passions the fights the love and everything in between We could almost play it like a movie so everyone could see it can you imagine if other people could watch the movie through your eyes and also feel all of your emotions you felt your whole life.
Now you take one big step back from yourself and now you're looking at a wall that has hundreds of pictures or let's call it postcards on the wall. You think that's very interesting all these different postcards of places and families across the world. So you decide to take one step closer and look at a different picture and now this picture turns into a movie and it starts to play and you can feel and see all the emotions through someone else's eyes.
Then you repeat this by stepping back looking at a different picture and then taking one step forward and Re living the life of a different time period through someone else's eyes.
Then after looking at countless number of these lives you realize even the Room that you are standing in is Really just inside the lobby of a great movie theater and you feel the connection with everyone around you...... And you realize this goes on for Ever except you realize there is no time or space every time you decide to go In a different direction or a Room everything starts all over. From the beginning telling a different story.
Then you realize the more you get disconnected from one Room that you feel total love and oneness with everyone around you but as you step into a Room or you look close into a postcard to start watching a new movie you feel the separation And disconnection from everyone else around you and especially the people in the other rooms. You feel like it's just you taking on the world and only you can know what you're feeling and experiencing. And you strive very hard for your perfection. And all the goals you set for yourself to set yourself apart from everyone else to be special to be known to be heard. You feel this is true life and the meaning of it.
I hope you understood a little of what I was trying to say it's very hard to explain. And also it's like you can stand in this dark Room and believe and say "I am " and then you can immediately walk into a Room and live the life of whatever you wanted to.
And you truly set all your boundaries and limitations for that particular life experience. Even if that life experience was just to come down and break limitations you wanted to know how it would feel To break limitations that were set before you to feel what it would be like to overcome.
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